Now that that is out my system here is a pic of some results...
That is the remainder of my old brass fixture in the floor. I do a lot of hammering. Everything looks good. I finally remove the flange. I make (yet another) trip to lowes to pick up some new recprocating saw blades to try and make this faster.
Lo and behold this baby is cast iron. Woot. (this is a sarcastic woot if you couldn't tell) I begin removing rock, sand and dirt to get down far enough to put on a rubber coupler. I notice the drain seems a little loose. I keep diging. I pull.....

That right. It had cracked at the base trap. Oh joy. More digging. I now have a hole in my floor.




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